Cant start wont start!

Hopped in the GTA to take it to the garage this morning and it wouldnt start. It briefly coughed on the first attempt. I cant hear the primer fuel pump at all anymore. The only things I have tampered with since it last ran a week ago are the relays on the bulkhead that seperates the front luggage area from the battery/blower compartment......in order to fit a strut brace. As far as I can see.....one is labelled 'Facon' (and its Facon pissing me off ) and is a silver cylinder with a connection block plus a rather strange earth that goes to the outside where it bolted to the bulkhead. The other is a two wire relay of some description.
Do either of these control the fuel pumps? Any ideas?????

As far as I can see.....one is labelled 'Facon' (and its Facon pissing me off ) and is a silver cylinder with a connection block plus a rather strange earth that goes to the outside where it bolted to the bulkhead. The other is a two wire relay of some description.
Do either of these control the fuel pumps? Any ideas?????

The silver cylinder is almost certainly just a suppression capacitor -
FACON are a Capacitor manuf to the electronics industry.
If true, then this hasn't a role to play.
Can't help with the rest though.
Maybe some digi pics will help ??

[stephendell]

The silver cylinder is for the wipers.(suppressor)

Sorry but I presume you have checked the fuel tank ?

I slid my car out of the garage a few weeks ago and it simply would not fire up (cranked over fine), turned out I'd run out of fuel even though the gauge read 4.7 g !

Since then I removed the gauge in the vain hope it's un stuck its self.

It has petrol........the normal whirring of the primer pump doesnt happen anymore so I guess thats my problem. I just need some pointers as to where to start. Which side of the car are the pumps on? Any wires that I'm likely to have disturbed when removing the bulkhead that could have caused this?

First pump is just under the front of the car inbetween the wheels (you can see it from underneath) and the rear pump is in the drivers side rear wheel arch position (along with the filter)

Which pump is not priming, the one from the rear? (loud 3 second buzz on ignition) or the front pump (hard to hear anyway!!)??

No sound from anything as far as I can tell.....will get the live feeds checked this afternoon. The car wont start......just turns over...and over! Was thinking that I must have disturbed something when removing the front bulkhead, but it may just be a coincidence.

No power to the rear pump for starters......it does work but only when rigged up to a live feed. Oh well......I'm off for a swim in the sea to cool down.

It was the fuel pump relay.....needed a wiggle and bingo started first time. Sea was very warm too!!!!

Tried to start my car for the first time in about a month today. Wouldn't start, sounds a bit like peterg's problem. Can someone tell me where the fuel pump relay is on a 1988 atmo, so I can wiggle it.
Thanks,
Clive

On the turbo both the relays (dont know what the other one does...or the difference, just wiggled them both!!!!) are in behind the rear seat where the wiring loom and ECU are an atmo should be the same???

On the Atmo I think they're under a panel near the main fuse box .

The wiring diags I have say that the realys under the panel in the middle of the back seats are (in order from drivers side to passenger side: Injection relay, fuel pump relay, aircon compressor relay, rear screen demister relay.

There is no fuel pump relay listed in the atmo diagrams.

I'm working from 1990 wiring diags but hopefully this will be of help. The relay that controls the pump on the atmo is under the panel where the fuses are. There are two banks of relays and it should be the bottom left corner of the upper bank. Drop me a pm if that doesn't make sense and I'll send you a scan of the page. I think the relay takes a feed from the coil and only switches on when there is a regular spark to indicate that the engine is running.