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Here is my frustrating history of conversation and payment to David Gentlemen of ALPINERENAULTTUNING.CO.UK - . Random responses, incomplete information --stories about wheels on the way -then not available - mold damage etc.. read for yourself to story- No parts - allegedly sent in January as per David's own words.
Here is my order as it sits idle in his hands.
It would really have been nice to drive my 1986 ALPINE with these parts installed!!!
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Order #23 (Processing)
Order Date: Friday 17 August, 2007 Order Total: £1,359.99
Delivery Address
redline engineeering
alan miller
13 post rd.
canaan, New York 12029
U
Shipping Method
Table Rate (Best Way)
Products
1 x GTA Adjustable Height/Damping Coilover Suspension Kit £495.00
1 x Door Sills
- Options: 'A' £20.00
1 x GTA Rear Decal Set £20.00
1 x GTA V6 Braided Brake Lines £49.99
1 x Azev A Alloy Wheels (Set of 4)
- Options: 8 x 17" Front / 10 x 17" Rear £755.00
Billing Information
Billing Address
redline engineeering
alan miller
13 post rd.
canaan, New York 12029
U
Payment Method
PayPal
Sub-Total: £1,339.99
Table Rate (Best Way): £20.00
Total: £1,359.99
Order History
08/17/2007 Processing
09/24/2007 Processing Still waiting on wheels and suspension currently. Sorry for delay.
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1 x Azev A Alloy Wheels (Set of 4)
£795.00
Order History
Azev A Alloy Wheels (Set of 4)
Door Sills
GTA Adjustable Height/Damping Coilover Suspension Kit
GTA Rear Decal Set
GTA V6 Braided Brake Lines
Friday 22 February, 2008 225790 requests since Saturday 11 November, 2006
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David,
It would be useful to know what shipping company you are using in order for the tracking number to have any meaning.
Please forward the shippers information.
DT Motorsport provided the information indicating there may be a problem with 18” wheels only.
Alan
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From: Dave@ART [mailto:david@alpinerenaulttuning.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:17 AM
To:
alan@redlinecars.com
Subject: Re: order #23
Hi Alan
Well I have the tracking number of JD0002296175182623 though there are no details yet on the system as per their website, so Im waiting for a call.
As for the wheels, Im only going on what my distributor said to me. There are a few people that import the wheels, maybe they are not aware of any problems until they need to order.
Cheers
David
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----- Original Message -----
From: alan
To: 'Dave@AVT' ; 'Dave@ART' ;
david@chargecooler.co.uk
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 7:15 PM
Subject: RE: order #23
David,
According to the UK distributor of AZEV wheels “there are currently no problems with the supply of Azev A, C or E in the sizes you require.”
As you have not been forthcoming with any tracking information shall I presume that nothing has yet been shipped to me?
Alan Miller
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From: Dave@AVT [mailto:david@advancedvehicletuning.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 5:12 AM
To:
alan@redlinecars.com
Subject: Re: order #23
Hi Alan
Hmm, yes, I sent the parts about a 3 days after. Ill track them today. The US shipments are quite slow due to the weight and shipping method (30kgs)
Wheel wise, 9-10x17" rear with 10 to 15mm offset, front 7 or 7.5x17" with 40mm offset.
Cheers
David
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----- Original Message -----
From: alan
To: 'Dave@ART' ; 'Dave@AVT'
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:32 PM
Subject: FW: order #23
David,
Do you yet have an answer to my last question pertaining to wheel specifications?
Is there any chance that I might receive the parts I have ordered so I can install them on my car before spring arrives?
I am perplexed at your lack of communication and inability to fill the order.
Please advise me of delivery time!
Alan Miller
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From: alan [mailto:ttc12882@taconic.net]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:28 AM
To: 'Dave@ART'
Subject: RE: order #23
David,
Would you please send me the specifications of the wheels that you had on order for me ie: Centerbore, offset and bolt circle dimensions so that I may see about getting the matching dimensions from Rimstock or domestic wheel supplier.
Thanks,
Alan
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From: Dave@ART [mailto:david@alpinerenaulttuning.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 5:25 PM
To:
reilly@redlinecars.com
Subject: Re: order #23
Hi Jon
No, all wheels are to order as this is such a small market, I can't afford to hold stock, and these wheels are a unique fitment.
If you wanted to source some GTA fitment wheels in the US, Rimstock do direct fitment, and they have a distributorship in the US.
Cheers
David
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----- Original Message -----
From: john
To: 'Dave@ART'
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:00 PM
Subject: RE: order #23
David,
Do you have any comparable wheels of the same size combination in stock?
Thanks,
Alan
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From: Dave@ART [mailto:david@alpinerenaulttuning.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:17 AM
To:
alan@redlinecars.com
Subject: Re: order #23
Hi Alan
Unfortunately still no sign of these wheels, and I seem to be being mucked around by the suppliers still.
Do you want to cancel the wheels, and just send the rest of the parts. They are all still sitting here ready to go.
Regards
David
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----- Original Message -----
From: alan
To:
david@alpinerenaulttuning.co.uk
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 1:51 PM
Subject: order #23
David,
Shall I ever expect to have this order delivered as this has been going on 5 months?
Alan Miller
Order #23
1 x GTA Adjustable Height/Damping Coilover Suspension Kit £495.00 1 x Door Sills
- Options: 'A' £20.00 1 x GTA Rear Decal Set £20.00 1 x GTA V6 Braided Brake Lines £49.99 1 x Azev A Alloy Wheels (Set of 4)
- Options: 8 x 17" Front / 10 x 17" Rear £755.00
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waiting4partsfromDavidG
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Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Posts: 2
Location: USA
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: David Gentlemen--- Where are my parts? SUPPLEMENT
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CORRESPONDANCE BACK TO AUGUST 13, 2007
STILL NO PARTS FROM DAVID GENTLEMEN
David,
Great! Thanks for the update.
Alan
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From: Dave@AVT [mailto:david@advancedvehicletuning.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 4:55 PM
To:
alan@redlinecars.com
Subject: Re: alpine parts order.
Hi Alan
Sorry I didnt update. I spoke to them last week, wheels are already on their way over to me..
All the other parts are here, so I should be shipping the whole lot out middle of next week.
Thanks for your patience.
Cheers
David
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----- Original Message -----
From: alan
To:
sales@alpinerenaultuning.co.uk ; 'Dave@AVT' ; david@alpinerenaulttuning..co.uk
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 4:41 PM
Subject: alpine parts order.
David,
We are now going on 4 months for this order. Does AZEV have an alternate wheel of the same size combination available to fit this application instead of the one that they apparently have production mold damage on?
Thanks,
Alan Miller
Order #23
1 x GTA Adjustable Height/Damping Coilover Suspension Kit £495.00 1 x Door Sills
- Options: 'A' £20.00 1 x GTA Rear Decal Set £20.00 1 x GTA V6 Braided Brake Lines £49.99 1 x Azev A Alloy Wheels (Set of 4)
- Options: 8 x 17" Front / 10 x 17" Rear £755.00
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http://www.iolo.comDavid,
Thanks for the update. I did not receive an email last week from you. It is possible that it may have been caught in a spam filter. Would you please resend it? The last email received from you was 8/16/07 aside from the revised information regarding delivery delay on 9/24/07 on the website accounting listing.
Alan
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From: Dave@AVT [mailto:david@advancedvehicletuning.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:45 PM
To:
alan@redlinecars.com
Subject: Re: alpine parts order
Hi Alan
Reference my email sent to you last week, everything is still as it was bar the Azev order due to their 'damaged mould' as they put it. Manufacture is expected next week, with stock to me the following.
If there is a problem with emails, please use
alpinerenaulttuning@ukonline.couk instead, as all the others go through the same server, or contact me through the Forum private messaging system.
Regards
David
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David,
As I see you have plenty of time to participate in the Alpine forums on almost a daily basis I find it surprising that I have no correspondence regarding my order sine September 24th. If the parts I have ordered are no longer available I would appreciate a cancellation of my order or a more precise delivery date for the requested goods. I noticed you had listed a special price on a spare set of type C AZEV wheels in the sizes I have on order. If these are still available I would consider them instead. Please apprise me of the current disposition of this order.
Alan Miller
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From: alan [mailto:ttc12882@taconic.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 8:04 AM
To: 'Dave@AVT'; 'Dave@AVT'
Subject: alpine parts order
David,
What is the disposition of this order?
Order #23 (Processing)
Order Date: Friday 17 August, 2007
Order Total: £1,359.99
Delivery Address
redline engineeering
alan miller
13 post rd.
canaan, New York 12029
U
Shipping Method
Table Rate (Best Way)
Products
1 x
GTA Adjustable Height/Damping Coilover Suspension Kit
£495.00
1 x
Door Sills
- Options: 'A'
£20.00
1 x
GTA Rear Decal Set
£20.00
1 x
GTA V6 Braided Brake Lines
£49.99
1 x
Azev A Alloy Wheels (Set of 4)
- Options: 8 x 17" Front / 10 x 17" Rear
£755.00
Billing Information
Billing Address
redline engineeering
alan miller
13 post rd.
canaan, New York 12029
U
Payment Method
PayPal
Sub-Total:
£1,339.99
Table Rate (Best Way):
£20.00
Total:
£1,359.99
Order History
08/17/2007
Processing
09/24/2007
Processing
Still waiting on wheels and suspension currently. Sorry for delay.
David,
Is the order still on schedule for delivery this month?
Thanks,
Alan
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From: Dave@AVT [mailto:david@advancedvehicletuning.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:33 PM
To:
alan@redlinecars.com
Subject: Re: RE ALPINE gta WHEELS.
Hi Alan
Only problem with that is it won't supplement the extra charge for the shipping on there, so the best way is too also 'order' on my site other goods (to the total of £300) then I can use that money as the shipping costs, understand?
Cheers
David
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www.advancedvehicletuning.co.uk
TEL/FAX : 01206 751576 / Mobile : 07909 994644
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----- Original Message -----
From: alan
To: 'Dave@AVT'
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: RE ALPINE gta WHEELS.
David,
Should I do the full check out on the website shopping cart to proceed with the order?
Thanks,
Alan
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From: Dave@AVT [mailto:david@advancedvehicletuning.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 6:28 PM
To:
alan@redlinecars.com
Subject: Re: RE ALPINE gta WHEELS.
Just to note, there is about a 2 week manufacturing wait on the wheels, and 4 weeks on the suspension.
So 4 weeks overall for the total order.
Cheers
David
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Affiliates :
www.adaptronic.co.uk /
www.advancedvehicletuning.co.uk
TEL/FAX : 01206 751576 / Mobile : 07909 994644
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----- Original Message -----
From: alan
To: 'Dave@AVT'
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 10:30 PM
Subject: RE: RE ALPINE gta WHEELS.
David,
I prefer the insured shipping direst to my door. What freight provider do you use?
Thanks,
Alan
Here is my revised order:
GTA Rear Decal Set
£20.00
Door Sills
- Options 'A'
£20.00
GTA Adjustable Height/Damping Coilover Suspension Kit
£495.00
Azev A Alloy Wheels (Set of 4)
- Options 8 x 17" Front / 10 x 17" Rear
£755.00
GTA V6 Braided Brake Lines
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From: Dave@AVT [mailto:david@advancedvehicletuning.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 4:53 PM
To:
alan@redlinecars.com
Subject: Re: RE ALPINE gta WHEELS.
Hi Alan
It works out £300 to send 4 wheels and the suspension to your door. Total weight is around 70kilos. Fully insured.
It can be done slightly cheaper, around £220, but buy boat, upto 3 weeks, and a non insured price. And you would have to collect from the port in NY.
Regards
David
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TEL/FAX : 01206 751576 / Mobile : 07909 994644
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----- Original Message -----
From: alan
To: 'Dave@AVT'
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 9:37 PM
Subject: RE: RE ALPINE gta WHEELS.
Alan G. Miller
Redline Engineering Automotive
13 Post Rd.
Canaan, NY 12029
USA
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From: Dave@AVT [mailto:david@advancedvehicletuning.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 3:45 PM
To:
alan@redlinecars.com
Subject: Re: RE ALPINE gta WHEELS.
Hi Alan
Where are you from, so I can work out a shipping rate. I assume your not UK?
Cheers
David
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----- Original Message -----
From: alan
To: 'Dave@AVT'
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: RE ALPINE gta WHEELS.
David,
Thanks for the update! Shall I just fill out the information in the shopping cart to process?
Alan
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From: Dave@AVT [mailto:david@advancedvehicletuning.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 12:37 PM
To:
alan@redlinecars.com
Subject: Re: RE ALPINE gta WHEELS.
Hi Alan
They will clear fine 'when lowered', but may rub (very slightly) on the inside edge of the wheelarch on full lock. Also, they will rub on the bulkhead when the car is jacked up in the air, so please make sure this is ok with your vehicle testing station...
Or just put the original wheels on for testing.
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Affiliates :
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www.advancedvehicletuning.co.uk
TEL/FAX : 01206 751576 / Mobile : 07909 994644
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----- Original Message -----
From: alan
To:
david@advancedvehicletuning.co.uk ;
david@chargecooler.co.uk ; 'Dave@ART'
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 5:18 PM
Subject: RE ALPINE gta WHEELS.
David,
Will the 8 x 17 front and 10 x 17 Azev A rear wheels fit the 1989 GTA atmo without clearance problems in conjunction with your GAZ adjustable spring set? Please advise.
Alan@redlinecars.com
Azev A Alloy Wheels (Set of 4)
- Options 8 x 17" Front / 10 x 17" Rear
£755.00
GTA Adjustable Height/Damping Coilover Suspension Kit
£495.00