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Postby clee » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:11 pm

As you all will have noticed I've been playing about with the GTA turbo over the past few years :D

Running alongside the JIL project MartinF and myself have been developing a more user friendly upgrade for the GTA .

This involves reprogramming the std Renix ECU ,cams and a bigger turbo .There are a few other tweaks involved but that is the basic upgrade .
All this has been tested over a period of 6 months and we now have the results and subsequently can offer an upgrade for you guys out there that feel a bit more is needed under the boot :wink:
Power figures are subjective.I have made a point of making all runs on the same rollers so I feel confident that the increases are a true representation .The car has been tested on road by more that one driver and the feel backs up the figures :twisted:

Here are the results .Power graph showing consistent pulls of the finished car and also a comparison against a std GTA with a similar turbo upgrade .
If anyone wants more info then please get in touch .
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Postby PaulyA610 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:29 pm

That is a nice power gain there, can you do anything similar for the 610 as i would be interested!
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Postby clee » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:29 pm

610 ecu code is locked out so would have to put in another Renix to do it but possible .Some stuff is known from Adapt run 3 liter PRV and a n other 3l Renix car .All is possible but would need some development .
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Postby PaulyA610 » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:08 pm

Well I may know of a development car you can use!!! :wink:
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Postby clee » Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:46 am

:D

Lets talk :wink:
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Postby si21 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:33 pm

TBH not that I currently have the money at the moment, but I just thought I would ask what basic mods have been carried out as I am interested? I am not requesting specs but it would be nice to know if this was acheived with head work cam changes, obviously a bigger or upgraded turbo and some ECU mods.

Like I said I am not trying to poach specs just interested to see how much power is acheivable with what mods?

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Postby clee » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:42 pm

As above Si .
Cams , Renix ECU modified ,bigger blower with mod to collector and bigger injectors .
Engine needs to come out to do the cams and this lump I fully rebuilt as it had some oil pressure issues on arrival .
No head mods but would benefit from it on the exhaust side .
Now mapped up to 1 bar and holding 14psi on road tests .
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Postby clee » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:28 pm

Bit of an update .
MartinF has been playing with the Renix a bit more ....We need to get some bigger injectors as it was starting to lean out big time today but some good results on the hub dyno at a RTOC RR day ..




scoff - 749 bhp - 571.8 lb/ft r5 gt turbo
oliver - 406 bhp - 413 lb/ft bmw m5
glen - 402.8 bhp - 427.7 lb/ft r5 gt turbo
robbie - 393.7 bhp - 345.7 lb/ft r5 gt turbo
will - 275.9 bhp - 323.3 lb/ft alpine gta
dikky - 233.9 bhp - 247.1 lb/ft clio v6
blunty - 230 bhp - 213 lb/ft r5 gt turbo
caz - 224.7 bhp - 212.7 lb/ft r5 gt turbo
grant - 203.9 bhp - honda accord type r
jock - 195.6 bhp - 195.9 lb/ft r5 gt turbo
matt - 184.9 bhp - 159.2 lb/ft clio r27 f1
lee - 165.5 bhp - 251 lb/ft r21 turbo
alex - 134 bhp - 146.8 lb/ft r5 gt turbo
mike - 127.3 bhp - 162.7 lb/ft r5 gt turbo
roy - 125.2 bhp - 158.9 lb/ft r5 gt turbo
robbo - 122.6 bhp - 134.8 lb/ft r5 gt turbo






I put the 21 on .....running mega rich so we had the best/worst of both worlds today .
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Postby stephendell » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:30 pm

Notice how all the modern NA stuff doens't even make what it says on the tin :(

Nice result from scoff though. With nitrous?
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Postby stephendell » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:30 pm

Notice how all the modern NA stuff doesn't even make what it says on the tin :(

Nice result from scoff though. With nitrous?
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Postby stephendell » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:30 pm

Notice how all the modern NA stuff doesn't even make what it says on the tin :(

Nice result from scoff though. With nitrous?
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Postby clee » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:56 pm

No NOS :shock: :twisted:
Glenn's car is C1J with NOS .


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DOHC 2.0L 16v Turbo
Clio 172 block & cylinder head
Garrett GT40/30r
Twin 2" turbosmart wastegates, seperate discharges
Custom cams, hydro lifters
Uprated springs
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Steel rods, ARP 2000
Twin bosch 044 fuel pumps & twin feed to rail
Seperate lift pump & de gas pot
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Postby jon_viola » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:57 pm

Nice one!!! Thats a great result, especially those torque figures :D :D :D
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Postby Teglen » Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:05 pm

Any ideas on the quantities of pennies we're talking here?
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Postby clee » Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:26 am

Difficult to give an exact figure and I would recommend standalone rather than Renix to get to this level of tune purely for the ease of adjustment .
With the Renix we have to log data then rewrite the chip every time but with standalone this can be done with a press of a button .I don't think Martin wants to do another anytime soon purely down to the time involved getting it right .We could piggyback for fuel and ignition .
Renix maps exist but will still need tweaking for every application .Adapt maps are pretty much sorted and we have data from 6 different setups .
Scoff is in the process of installing a RR up in Runcorn so that will make life a lot easier and safer when it comes to mapping .
Breaks down something like this + engine needs to come out to swap cams and ECU choice options .

Cams around £400
Turbo £800
Injectors £200
ECU /sensors/ loom ? £1000
Labour for build and mapping £1000

unlikely to see much change from £3.5k
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